My favourite thing about conservatives – I mean the American social conservative, not the Wall Street/military industrial complex brand of conservative – is the absence of any real understanding of what they are threatened by. Between howls of confused anger, and fervent confessions of chauvinistic faith, this guy plows through a conservative laundry list that is so predictable as to be downright boring. I’ve placed the juicy bits below, and at the bottom of my response, I’ve pasted his entire post. Enjoy.
I Am the Democratic, Republican Liberal-Progressive’s Worst Nightmare.
I am a White, Conservative, Tax-Paying, American Veteran, Gun Owning
Biker. That’s me!
As a liberal-progressive, I see you as a foolish old git. Somewhere between disgust and sad bemusement, that’s my opinion of you. My worst nightmare: Sisyphean situations. It’s your lack of any ability towards cognitive dissonance that scares me.
I am a Master Mason. I work hard and long hours with my hands to earn
The US is the second hardest working country in the world. I work too; the overwhelming majority of people work and are incredibly busy. You work, I work, we all work. You gain no moral standpoint by working with your hands.
I believe the money I make belongs to me and not some liberal
governmental functionary, Democratic or Republican, that wants to share it with others who don’t
Wow! Are you an Independent? A Tea Partyer? A libertarian? I bet you vote Republican either way. Anyway, Republican or Democrat, they’re spending it on the military waaaay more then “sharing it with others who don’t work”. Again, most people work. Take a civics lesson: social spending actually does stuff. It’s important, and probably has more effect on our lives than, say a 4 trillion dollar invasion of Iraq. Don’t pretend to be a fiscal conservative when the Republican and conservative record of government spending is – if anything -worse than the Democrats. You’re never going to have a night-watchman’s state with how much we spend on the military. It’s that simple.
I think owning a gun doesn’t make you a killer; it makes you a smart
Well, the statistics and just sort of reality don’t agree with you here. American deaths by shooting are way above anybody other country in the world. A lot of us Americans are unconvinced that guns make you safer, in fact, it’s making us less safe. Any other conclusion is a vigilante’s fantasy. The logic of “If only one those people in that church in South Carolina had had a gun that terrible thing wouldn’t have happened” I can only understand as a relic of watching too many action movies; I don’t think a gun battle would have saved any lives at all. The Wild West was never real. It’s time you grew up and realise this.
My heroes are Malcolm Forbes, Bill Gates, John Wayne, Babe Ruth,
Roy Rogers, and Willie G. Davidson, who makes the awesome Harley
That’s a sad collection of heroes you got there. Two mega rich people who would describe you as white trash, two Hollywood actors that famously represent a black and white conception of morality, a baseball player and a man who made motorcycles. At least you didn’t say anything about Putin. My heroes: Theodore Roosevelt, Churchill, Hunter S. Thompson, Edward Snowden, Robert Byron, and Hannah Arendt.
I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and
does not entitle you to anything. Get over it!
Noble and victimised? This is how you are painting yourself in this very Facebook post. You’re ignoring the gaping racial wound this country has because people like you can’t bring yourself too acknowledge it’s very real and devastating existence.
I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac or any other item, you
should do it in English. I believe there should be no other language option.
Why do you want a Big Mac at all? You must understand that this country has always had many different languages. Why are you so threatened? Most countries have lived with immigrants and different languages for centuries without being so threatened.
I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and
where they want to.
I agree. But it makes me nervous why you would feel the need to voice this. Surely, you are not trying to play the victim here are you? Because this country bends very far to not offend christians. If there was some conspiracy out there to attack christianity, then the easiest way would be to make church pay taxes.
I don’t hate the rich. I don’t pity the poor.
Maybe you should? Jesus did, I suspect. The statistics – the reality – paint a picture of widening financial inequality in this country. Multinational corporations and a handful of wealthy individuals hold most of America’s wealth. Perhaps you should buy from small, local businesses, support an amendment stripping corporations of legal protections equal to human individuals, and support a genuinely progressive tax system based not on income, but on net wealth. Please note how I am not interested in increasing social spending.
I know wrestling is fake and I don’t waste my time watching or arguing
Yep. Wait, people watch wrestling?
This is AMERICA …We like it the way it is and more so the way
it was …so stop trying to change it to look like Russia or China , or some other socialist country!
If you were born here and don’t like it… you are free to move to any
Socialist country that will have you. I believe it is time to really clean house,
starting with the White House, the seat of our biggest problems.
Oh dear. This is a tired old outburst, isn’t it? You mock only yourself, sir. First of all, you are ignorant of the way America is, AND you are ignorant of the way America was. It’s adorable how you think that China and Russia are socialist countries. Because they aren’t. And haven’t been for some time now. Seriously: there is no excuse for this level of cluelessness. In the interest of forestalling argument, I realise that technically China is still ruled by a communist party. Fine. But this means only a little bit as the country is run on capitalist lines; any collusion between the Chinese government and it’s businesses is no more then the amount of collusion between our government and our big businesses.
So I want to make America better place in terms of more equality, education, more democratic and more friendly to the environment, therefore I am un-American and also a socialist. It’s one thing to be skeptical of progressives, but that doesn’t mean that it’s the right thing to be downright regressive.
I want to know which church is it, exactly, where the Reverend
Jesse Jackson preaches, where he gets his money, and why he
is always part of the problem and not the solution?
Can I get an AMEN on that one?
Amen. I want to know why you think JJ is the problem. Why have you focused on him? Can you explain how your mindset isn’t the problem? Can you explain how you are a part of the solution? Do you even know what the problem is? Can you acknowledge that the fact that you have focused your anger on JJ is part of a political tact designed to distract you from the real problem?
I also think the cops have the right to pull you over if you’re
breaking the law, regardless of what color you are, but not
just because you happen to ride a bike.
Your sense of law, justice, morality seems to be very confused here. Breaking the law – a man made idea – is pretty blurry. That’s your first problem. The second problem is the “pulling over” part. I’m not calling you a racist…but let’s just say that most, or the worst crime doesn’t happen in cars. So I’m suspicious of why you would focus on that. It seems like you are saying that you don’t mind when minorities are harassed by the police, but when they harass you, that’s when it’s a problem.
And I’m proud that ‘God’ is written on my money..
Yeah, it’s a product of the 1950’s and the efforts of the government to convince American’s to support massive military budgets to “fight” the Soviets. The Founding Father’s concept of America was very different then what you grew up with. Our’s is supposed to be a great citizen’s republic based on classical Athens and Rome, rather than the Evangelical State you are indirectly implying that the US is (BUT NEVER WAS). It’s hard not to conclude that you want to return to America as exclusively a white, christian man’s world (even then, this was never really true either).
I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I
don’t want you deciding who should be running the most
powerful nation in the world for the next four years.
Your attempt at excusing Voter ID Laws I presume? I think you should be excluded too, but I’m not going to support Voter ID laws because of your ignorance. It’s a blatant attempt at voter suppression, for the simple reason is that we have little to no voter fraud in this country. I would support election day has a national holiday. Would you?
I dislike those people standing in the intersections trying to sell
me stuff or trying to guilt me into making ‘donations’ to their cause….
Get a job and do your part to support yourself and your family!
You dislike people trying to sell you stuff? You live in AMERICA, and if you don’t like it you can get out….
Seriously, you seem to be confusing many different things. Again, most people have jobs. Those who don’t, tend to have very good, legitimate, reasons. Also, charity has a very long history, especially in this country. I definitely understand your exhaustion with advertisements and commercials literally everywhere, but hey, this is what unbridled capitalism is.
I believe that it doesn’t take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents….
I think it takes both. And planned parenthood.
I believe ‘illegal’ is illegal no matter what the lawyers think! I believe the American flag should be the only one allowed in AMERICA ! If this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I’m a BAD American. If you are a BAD American too, please forward this to everyone you know…
We want our country back! My Country….. I hope this offends all illegal aliens.
Yes, but America isn’t yours. It never was. The people in the slums are just as “America” as you are.
You don’t understand the why of immigration. And until you do, you will continue to sound simply racist. Think about it. What is the engine that’s driving immigration? I’ll give you a hint: it’s not the vast liberal agenda. It’s corporate greed that demands cheap labor to maximise profit. The major American immigration over the last century – that of African-Americans to major northern cities was driven by corporations looking for cheap industrial labor. Same thing here.
You think the American flag is the only flag that should be flown in America? What a fetish you got there! Of all the problems…this is your bugbear huh? It’s called freedom of speech, which means, quite simply that people have a right to express there opinions and heritage. We’re destroying our planetary ecology for the sake of profit and here you are obsessing over Mexicans and the Flag? You want to offend all the illegal aliens? They’re scared and desperate. We’re talking about people that are just trying to get by: they don’t have the luxury to be offended.
My great, great, great, great grandfather watched and bled as his
friends died in the Revolution & the War of 1812. My great, great, great grandfather watched as his friends died in
the Mexican American War. My great, great grandfather watched as his friends & brothers
died in the Civil War. My great grandfather watched as his friends died in the
Spanish-American War. My grandfather watched as his friends died in WW I. My father watched as his friends died in WW II.
I watched as my friends died in Vietnam , Panama & Desert Storm. My son watched & bled as his friends died in Afghanistan and Iraq. None of them died for the Mexican Flag. Everyone died for the American flag.
This is an impressive list of wars. Ever stop to wonder if they where necessary? Do you genuinely think there sacrifice was necessary? Your utter lack of questioning and your reference to the American flag only seems to indicate that you do not understand these wars, most of which were simple militaristic adventures, driven by political calculation, not “clear and present danger”. Again, the bugbear of immigration without understanding the engine behind the immigration. You cannot expect to be taken seriously here.
Texas high school students raised a Mexican flag on a school flag pole,
other students took it down. Guess who was expelled…the students
who took it down. California high school students were sent home on Cinco de Mayo,
because they wore T-shirts with the American flag printed on them.
Comical. This is country of three hundred twenty five million people, and your concerned with high schoolers and the raising and lowering of flags? Grow up dude. Theses examples, even if true, mean nothing. There’s no conspiracy here, just a lack of a sense of humour it seems, all around. Hell, Cinco de Mayo does celebrate the victory of Mexican forces over a foreign, European occupier (the French). How is this something that we cannot appreciate?
If you don’t want to forward this for fear of offending someone,
then YOU’RE PART OF THE PROBLEM ! We’ve gone so far the other way . . . bent over backwards not to
offend anyone. Only AMERICANS seems to care when American Citizens are being
offended ! WAKE UP America ! ! !
You’ve mentioned offending several times. I guess this is reference to political correctness. Really not interested in political correctness. What I am interested in is that people living in a society together have some common decency and maybe just a little bit of empathy. I’m not even asking for active sympathy here. Also, consider how far the rest of us go to not offend YOU. I am constantly waking on eggshells so as to avoid provoking your myriad insecurities. Nothing is worse than an old blowhard indulging his sense of self-importance and hypocritical self-righteousness by repeating hyperbole that he has heard on Fox News.